A 2005 Savage Chickens cartoon (by Doug Savage) with what’s labeled as a “future perfect passive”:
The label isn’t exactly wrong — it alludes, somewhat indirectly, to the semantics of the material will have been disappointed with subject you and complement with your life — but the label invites comparison to material like amāverō ‘will have loved’ in Latin (expressing the “future perfect”). But English and Latin work very differently in how they package content into words.
When it occurs in a Latin sentence, amāverō is a single word, representing an inflectional form of the Latin verb lexeme AM- ‘love’; but when it occurs in in an English sentence, will have loved is a sequence of three words, each representing a form of an English verb lexeme (the “future” modal verb WILL in a FIN (“finite”) form; the “perfect” auxiliary verb HAVE in its BSE (“base”) form; and the main verb LOVE in its PSP (“past participle”) form. Latin packages the three bits of content in one verb word, English in three verb words.
In Latin, this packaging is done by assembling word parts, in a complex fashion; it’s all morphology. In English this packaging is a matter of pasting together three syntactic constructions, two involving a head V in combination with a VP complement:
(1) head: modal WILL + complement: VP with BSE head
(2) head: auxiliary HAVE + complement: VP with PSP head
and one involving a head V in combination with a variety of possibilities for complement: for instance, none:
(3a) head: main verb LOVE (intransitive will have loved)
or a direct object:
(3b) head: main verb LOVE + complement: direct object NP (transitive will have loved him)
If you know some Latin, it’s tempting to think of will have loved — or will have been disappointed or will have been being attacked— as a single word (and a regrettable number of sources on English structure talk this way). But Latin amāverō really is just one word (you can think of its parts as realizing, in a complex way, properties of the whole word), while English will have loved really is a sequence of three words, each with a syntactic life of its own: note, for instance, that the VPs involved can be syntactically complex:
will as a child have loved (will + as a child have loved)
will have passionately loved (will + [ have + passionately loved ] ])
That’s just a small sampling of the evidence in favor of one word for Latin vs. three words for English in this case. The larger point is that we can’t tell what’s going on in either language merely by thinking about the meanings of expressions; we need ways of arguing for one kind of analysis over another.
November 27, 2012 at 4:16 am |
Your point is of course true, but, unfortunately, your example doesn’t support it. The future perfect passive of amo is amatus ero, two words even in Latin.
November 27, 2012 at 5:19 am |
Yes, I was aware of that, which is why I switched to the simpler example of the future perfectt, where the contrast between Latin and English is straightforward. Even Latin has a mixture of inflectional packaging and syntactic (periphrastic) packaging,
November 27, 2012 at 8:11 am |
Mark Liberman wrote about this on Language Log in 2008.
November 27, 2012 at 9:29 am |
Drat! It slipped through my cartoon-inventorying scheme.
December 1, 2012 at 4:23 pm |
Great to see another Savage Chicken fan! (Today is Savage Chicken day on my blog – or would have been (conditional perfect), had I written this comment half an hour ago.)